6th PAY COMMISSION - RECOMMENDATIOSN BY THE THREE SERVICES

Dear Members,
Reference an email received from Cmde Theyunni appended below.
A 'Power Point' presentation of 82 slides (712 kb), has been received from Cmde Theyunni.

In case you are interested to receive the whole presentation, kindly send me an email, confirming that an attachment of 712 kb will permitted by your ISP to be received by you.

Out of 82 slides, one slide is appended below.

On behalf of you all I thank Cmde Theyunni for sending this information to us. Email ID - theyunni@yahoo.com, Location - ICELAND (it is not a joke).

Regards.
Chander Kamboj


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----- Original Message -----
From: Cmde. Theyunni
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL(CS Kamboj)
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: EMAIL 045/2007-"REPORT MY SIGNAL" - (ALL SERVICE FRIENDS OTHER THAN SIGNALS) 18 APR 07 - 6TH PAY COMMISSION - RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE THREE SERVICES
Dear Chander,

Thanks. I'm attaching what is purported to be the Army's proposal to the VI Pay Commission. I received this from an ex- Airforce Officer.

Warm regards,

Theyunni

UPDATE RDOF 07 APR 2007

UPDATE RDOF 07 APR 2007

retired officers forum wrote:
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:05:39 +0530
AS ON 07 APR 2007

1..........Awaiting transfer of cases from all over India to the Supreme Court in view of the transfer petition filed by the Govt.

2. The case for restoration of pension after 13 years is being examined in consultation with the legal experts in view of apex court judgment of May 1986.

3. It is proposed to hold 'SOLIDARITY DAY' by lighting candles at INDIA GATE to draw the attention of the GOVT, PEOPLE and the media as to the Govt attitude towards the 'VETERANS" of this country. In spite of orders of the courts the govt has not extended benefit to the defence services personnel and are thinking whether to implement or not. Some of the glaring issues are:

(a) IV pay commission pay fixation anomaly.
(b) Restoration of full pension after 13 years.
(c) Refund of ECHS amount to pre 1996 retirees.
(d) Payment of arrears of gratuity on merger of DA as part of total emoluments for pre 1996 retirees. It has already been paid to other central govt employees.

Your views on the proposed meet are requested along with suggestions to project a unified approach to issues. Please email or send to the address given in the website.

4. As retired fraternity we can do a lot to provide 'GOOD GOVERNANCE' to the people of this country and save the nation from deterioration. Keeping a eye on the forth coming DELHI Assembly elections and the LOK SABHA elections we can turn the tide. If ballot boxes are the answer then we are a untapped vote bank So spread the message to the retirees More will follow. Your views please. -- Visit Us At :http://rdoaindia.googlepages.com

http://retiredofficersforum.googlepages.com

TRIBUNE NEWS 07 MAR 2007

Dear Friends,
Another bomb shell news.
A news cutting from The Tribune, On Line Edition, Chandigarh, of 7 Mar 07 is reproduced below.

I have no more information on the subject and I cannot answer any further questions on this subject.

On behalf of you all we thank Cdr Arun Saigal for forwarding this news to us.
The email ID of Cdr Saigal is - saigal.arun@gmail.com.

If you wish to communicate with Retired Defence Officers Forum on the subject their email ID is - retiredofficersforum@gmail.com.

Regards.
Chander Kamboj


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The Tribune
On Line Edition
Wednesday, 07 March 2007
Chandigarh
Supreme Court Order IgnoredEx-soldiers get ‘incorrect’ pensionVijay MohanTribune News Service
Chandigarh, March 6While anomalies in the pay-fixation of officers consequent to the Fourth Pay Commission is yet to be settled, a fresh controversy has arisen over “incorrect” pension being paid to retired Armed Forces personnel for the past two decades.
A petition filed in the Punjab and Haryana High Court by a retired officer has contended that ex-servicemen are still being paid commuted values of pension at old rates since 1985, despite a Supreme Court order granting them additional benefits in 1986.
A Division Bench comprising justice Ashutosh Mohanta and justice R.S. Madan yesterday issued a notice of motion to the Central Government on the issue, which, according to ex-servicemen, affects lakhs of persons across all ranks.
In his petition, Lt Col S.L. Sharma (retired) has contended that the Armed Forces personnel were granted additional two years purchase value towards the commutation of pension by the apex court in December 1986. The decision of the court has not been implemented till date.
According to the petition, ex-servicemen are still being paid commuted value of pension at the rate of 12.66 years as against the rate of 12.66 years plus additional two years granted by the Supreme Court. It was done to bring the Armed Forces personnel at par with the other Central Government employees for the restoration of full pension after 15 years. Instead, they continued to loose commuted value of pension for two years.
The matter came to light when the petitioner was denied restoration of full pension after 13 years. The controller of defence accounts and the bank concerned maintained that the restoration of full pension would be done on expiry of 15 years.
A close scrutiny of the judgement revealed that the SC had allowed the Central Government to grant two years additional purchase value for the commutation of pension, the petition stated. The orders were to be implemented with effect from May 1, 1986.

PIL FILED IN SUPREME COURT 01 MAR 2007- FIRST MILESTONE

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EMAIL FROM RDOF
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Forth pay commission
DEAR MEMBERURGENT AND IMP INFOWRIT PETITION IN THE FORM OF PIL HAS BEEN FILED IN THE HON'BLE SUPREME COURT TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE FORUMLIKELY TO BE LISTED FOR HEARING IN THREE TO FOUR WEEKS TIMEINFO ALL CONCERNED
SECY RDOF

6TH PAY COMMIOSION INFO

All Members of "REPORT MY SIGNALS".
Retired Defence Officers Forum.
All Other Service Friends.
Dear Friends,
Reference Email A-10, dated 02 Dec 06, requesting for views on the 'Questionnaire by 6th Central Pay Commission'.
The following members had volunteered to contribute ideas for replying to the questionnaire-
Maj PM Ravindaran
Maj Gen MK Nangia
Col Maurice Abel (from UK).
Brig Vijay Raheja
Brig VK Mahajan
Brig AV Bhat
Col BC Pandey
Maj PM Ravindaran had very kindly agreed to compile the answers to questionnaire.

The questionnaire duly completed by Maj Ravindaran, with minor modifications, has been submitted on 29 Dec 06, by "REPORT MY SIGNALS" to -
Justice B.N.Srikrishna,
Chairman Sixth Central Pay Commission, (Email ID - sixth.cpc@nic.in)
Sixth Central Pay Commission,2nd Floor, ICADR Building ,Plot No.6, Vasant Kunj Institutional Area, Phase IINew Delhi-110070.
In case you are interested of reading the answers submitted, you may kindly write to "REPORT MY SIGNALS". A copy of the answers submitted shall be sent to you.

Those of you are still interested in submitting your comments and suggestion to the Sixth Central Pay Commission, may visit the website -
http://india.gov.in/govt/paycommission.php

Copy of the document sent to the Pay Commission is being separately being sent to the members who have contributed to it.

With regards.
Chander Kamboj

NEWS IN TRIBUNE 18 FEB 06

Dear Friends,
A news cutting from Tribune Chandigarh, dated 18 Feb 06, is reproduced below for your information.

On behalf of you all, we thank Brig Ved Ahuja, who is settled in Australia, and Col J Vij, who is settled in Chandigarh, to send this cutting to us.

You all are requested to be on a look out for articles and other information of interest to all of us and send it to me for sharing with all.
However, I reserve my right to circulate or not to circulate the information, depending on its contents.

Have a nice time.

Regards.
Chander Kamboj
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Ministry sanction not needed for paying arrears: Officers Tribune News Service
Lt Gen Harwant Singh
Chandigarh, February 18
Reacting to Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutt's statement that the Defence Ministry has recommended to the Ministry of Finance to release arrears arising out of Fourth Pay Commission (FPC) anomalies, some military officers have contended that the Finance Ministry's sanction is not required in this matter.
The order for implementation of the pay panel's recommendations was issued by the Defence Ministry through Special Army Instruction 1/S/87 (SAI) and not by the Ministry of Personnel as was in the case of other government establishments.
Under government regulations, the ministry has the authority to amend its own orders, officers familiar with procedures and legal issues claimed.
"Since the Defence Ministry, by recommending that arrears be paid, has accepted that a mistake was committed in the fixation of pay, all that needs to be done is amend the instructions," Col S.K. Aggarwal (retd), a former Judge Advocate- General officer, said. "If a single sentence in this order is corrected, the issue would be sorted out," he added.
He has also written to the President and the Prime Minister this month, urging them to ensure that officers affected get their dues.
What apparently happened, officers said, was a "drafting defect" in the orders which resulted in fixation of pay at scales lower that those recommended by the Pay Commission.
Para 3 of the SAI stated that officers from second lieutenant to brigadier would get an integrated pay scale of Rs 2300-5100 and in addition to basic pay, rank pay from captain to brigadier was admissible.
Further Para 6 (a)(i) said that for officers who were already in service as on January 1986, their pay was to be re-fixed by adding 20 per cent of the existing emoluments.
Officers here reveal that Para 6 (a)(ii) of the SAI, however, stated that after the existing amendments have been so increased, an amount equivalent to the rank pay held by the officers would be deducted.
Thereafter, the officers' pay would be fixed in the revised scale at the stage next above the amount thus computed.
It is the first sentence of this paragraph which is faulty as it is in direct contradiction with other provisions contained in the SAI, including revision of basic pay and grant of rank pay, officers said.
Pay and allowances of armed forces personnel are drawn from the Defence Budget and not through any other means. "Hence, the Defence Ministry need not seek additional funds from the Finance Ministry for paying out arrears," a senior officer here said. "In case funds are not available with the Defence Ministry, it should cater to this expenditure in the next budget," he added.

NFDC CIRCULAR 1/2007 DATED 10 JAN 2007

Extract from NFDC Circular 1/ 2007 dated 10 Jan 2007

(a) Pay Fixation of officers as on 1.1.86. Some of our members may be aware of the IV Pay Commission Pay Fixation ‘Faux Pas’ as a fall out of the case won by Maj Danapalan in the Kerala High Court. A large number of officers have individually filed writ petitions in the High Court. As of now a group of officers have formed a ‘Forum’ called the ‘Retired Defe Officers Forum’ (RDOF) . Lt Col BK Sharma is the President and Lt Col Satwant Singh the Secretary. The RDOF has it’s own website: retiredofficersforum.googlepages.comThe RDOF has a membership of over 400 officers ( more than 15 naval officers). The RDOF has suggested that it would be prudent to fight the case as one forum rather than individually by which we would be playing the Govt. card. The RDOF has sought the support of the Navy Foundation and has suggested two options:Option I The Navy Foundation gives complete support as an institution when the RDOF files the case, alongwith a list of affected officers. Whatever expenses accrue will be shared on a pro-rate basis by each officer.Option II Affected officers collectively join the RDOF as members by paying a membership fee of Rs 500/- per officer.The Navy Foundation Delhi Charter supports the cause of the RDOF and recommends that naval officers may join the Forum i.e. the RDOF individually by becoming a member on paying Rs 500/-

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